Thirty-one teams, 38 individuals chosen for DI Championship
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Last Updated - Nov 16, 2013 16:01 EST
INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA Division I Men’s and Women’s Track and Field Committee on Saturday announced the team and individual qu...
True that Portland did not run its regional team. . Also take into account NC State's only wins were Georgia and Florida and they only made it because North Carolina pushed them in. Georgia and Florida weren't ranked going into South regionand then finished at the bottom at NCAAs along with, surprise - NC State and Harvard.
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Ads...it all comes down to the math. It's totally objective from what I know of the process. The teams that make smart travel plans and then perform are duly rewarded. I wish I could tell you exactly why they didn't make the field but the answer is out there somewhere. Maybe someone can chime in with the math.
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In this case it was smart travel plans. Boise State probably should have run at Roy Griak and Wisconsin instead of Pre-Nats (much tougher race).
If you look at wins yes. They actually did get one - Portland (Bill Dellinger), They picked the tougher big meet between Pre-Nats and Wisconsin. The tougher race (fewer teams ranked in 20s) - Pre-Nats - at that meet you have current #3 Colorado, #5 Oregon, #15 Iona, #4 Stanford, #9 Tulsa, #18 Princeton 276, #2 Oklahoma State 300, Boise State 313. Way ahead of Oklahoma 400, Southern U 425, Butler 444, Kansas (14) 527
They lost to strong Mt Region teams at Mt West #6 New Mexico, #27 Colorado State, #24 Air Force - it was not a great conference meet for the Broncos
At West Region #4 Stanford, #5 Oregon, #11 Portland 92, Boise State 117, Arizona St 184 UCLA 187, Washington 277 was ninth - all three were ranked at one time with good wins.
I think the other teams got wins against weak competition and Boise State was unlucky in that they ran against tough competition for most of the season. They probably should have run at Griak or Notre Dame.
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It is completely confusing why Boise State men didn't make it after beating many at-large teams that made it at Pre-Nationals. NC state and Harvard were questionable calls as at-large bids.
On the women's side hard to tell why Indiana and BYU made it. ASU maybe should have been it, I am certain other teams have a good case.
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Admittedly, I haven't looked at this in great detail but I haven't been hearing any complaints about the at-large teams. There's zero subjectivity that goes into the process.
Ok, I did some looking. The Flotrack guys do a pretty good job with stuff and explain why teams got at-large spots.
Ads...it all comes down to the math. It's totally objective from what I know of the process. The teams that make smart travel plans and then perform are duly rewarded. I wish I could tell you exactly why they didn't make the field but the answer is out there somewhere. Maybe someone can chime in with the math.
It is completely confusing why Boise State men didn't make it after beating many at-large teams that made it at Pre-Nationals. NC state and Harvard were questionable calls as at-large bids.
On the women's side hard to tell why Indiana and BYU made it. ASU maybe should have been it, I am certain other teams have a good case.
The West Regional meet will be brutal to qualify in the top two positions. Luckily, most of the top teams have had great success this year.
The women are led by #1 ranked Arizona. They should win the region and it will be a b...
If you look at wins yes. They actually did get one - Portland (Bill Dellinger)
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Did Portland run the majority of their regionals team at Dellinger? If not, the win doesn't count.
Ads...it all comes down to the math. It's totally objective from what I know of the process. The teams that make smart travel plans and then perform are duly rewarded. I wish I could tell you exactly why they didn't make the field but the answer is out there somewhere. Maybe someone can chime in with the math.
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In this case it was smart travel plans. Boise State probably should have run at Roy Griak and Wisconsin instead of Pre-Nats (much tougher race).
They lost to strong Mt Region teams at Mt West #6 New Mexico, #27 Colorado State, #24 Air Force - it was not a great conference meet for the Broncos
At West Region #4 Stanford, #5 Oregon, #11 Portland 92, Boise State 117, Arizona St 184 UCLA 187, Washington 277 was ninth - all three were ranked at one time with good wins.
I think the other teams got wins against weak competition and Boise State was unlucky in that they ran against tough competition for most of the season. They probably should have run at Griak or Notre Dame.
It is completely confusing why Boise State men didn't make it after beating many at-large teams that made it at Pre-Nationals. NC state and Harvard were questionable calls as at-large bids.
On the women's side hard to tell why Indiana and BYU made it. ASU maybe should have been it, I am certain other teams have a good case.
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Admittedly, I haven't looked at this in great detail but I haven't been hearing any complaints about the at-large teams. There's zero subjectivity that goes into the process.
Ok, I did some looking. The Flotrack guys do a pretty good job with stuff and explain why teams got at-large spots.
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250896-Cross-Country-Season-on-Flotrack-2013/article/23358-Mens-NCAA-D1-Cross-Country-Qualifiers-Kolas-Calculator-Final-Release-Nov-15
On the women's side hard to tell why Indiana and BYU made it. ASU maybe should have been it, I am certain other teams have a good case.